I do think we made some mistakes along the way and that we purchased homes in residency and purchased a home before we ever got to my first job. I think there is a lot of truth there. I have another friend who made payments through her residency and she's gained a $100,000 in interest in loans in eight years. All Rights Reserved. Consumer debt was not something that he had. My old outlook - if you went into medicine to make a lot of money - wrong profession for the wrong reasons. So, you've done great and congratulations on that. Now contrast that to engineering. Jessica: And somehow all the men in the group got those shifts. Yeah. Why can't you get wealthy on $150k a year? Dr. Jim Dahle: So, first of all, I came out of residency, pregnant with twins. But they would employee match it with your money to the max of the $54,000, which you normally wouldn't do unless you were an independent contractor. Some confuse physician assistants with medical assistants, but they're very different. We already had some savings by that time to lose some money. Dr. Jim Dahle: Dr. Jim Dahle: So, if you don't, I think you can cause a lot of issues and impact your net worth. I don't think I was extremely materialistic. No. So all seven guests today are female, 6 physicians and an engineer. And so, after a while, you just have a ton of money and so you have to invest some of it. And I got my master's in 2009 in management science and engineering while working full-time and going to school part-time. And then within each of the stock and bond category, we're about 60/40, total U.S. market and then total international. It would have been nice to perhaps delve a little more into their specific portfolios and philosophy. Our next guest on the White Coat Investor podcast is Jessica. And we try to keep it updated as best we can. × But even compared to my co-residents I had plenty of friends that had more debt than that. And how is that divided up in? I'd say it's about being smart financially. I mean, how did you become so wealthy? Woman physician millionaire 3: Yeah. And I'm surprised how few people who enjoy the white coat investor in other venues have never really spent much time on the blog. Probably maybe 15% in our home, 15% to 20% is cash and bonds. How far were you out of training, do you think when you became debt-free? I probably wasn't until late early 20s that I started to really figure out how to save and why to save and that whole concept of delayed gratification. My income for that first six years combined with my husband was only around $200,000. And at some point, looking at the equity, my husband said “I think we have about a million dollars”. So that shockingly simple math behind early retirement really just kind of clicked things into focus for me. Woman physician millionaire 4: Woman millionaire: And then the other thing, this is where I kind of, I guess, part with the Dave Ramsey crowd and I agree with more with you, Dr. Dahle is right away do all you can, at least fill that backdoor Roth. I sold my home and moved from Chicago to Kentucky about a year ago. That actually kind of blew my mind. People loved hearing from these successful doctors and what they did to win financially, they just wanted more women represented. Woman physician millionaire 2: I think we were probably around $700,000 to $800,000. Okay. Yeah, that helps. But I remember going to one of my job interviews and people kept coming up to me and be like, “You're applying for the physician job?” And I finally looked at the head of the group who was like touring me and he was like, “Oh, I got some news for you. Or for that matter time to spend by myself, or doing anything where someone doesn't own my time. But that is when we really started looking to see what our true net worth was. What's that divided up into? But I would say maybe about five years out of residency. Dr. Jim Dahle: I couldn't believe it. I did a program where I used my GI Bill to pay for medical school and I took a salary and benefits while in medical school. We also live in California, which is relatively speaking for the U.S. good about parental leave policies and things like that. Woman physician millionaire 2: I would say that intern year was really hard. Like a lot of your listeners, I worked hard in school. Dr. Jim Dahle: And then of course we have a guest post each week. So, I looked at the social security website for this. I would tell everyone that would listen also be on a budget and get out of debt. Good podcast and great content lately… Definitely a refresher from the drama and rantings and COVID truther-ism on the other “social” parts of WCI (which sadly I know you have little control over). I suspect an actuary is pretty good at running the numbers on this sort of thing. My parents were here and so I had some extra help that way, which I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise. And that's when we really started tracking things. Another guest said her secret to success was luck, hard work, and education. And so, we sat down and we let him kind of play with it. We lost quite a bit of money, but when it's all told with all the transaction cost and the cost to furnish the house and we downsized, we're now living in the 1100 square foot apartment. Like if you have a cheaper option, take the cheaper option. But in hindsight, I can see that that probably wasn't the wisest choice. Threads or posts not on topic will be deleted or moved to the appropriate forum at moderator discretion. By the way, if you are thinking of being a nurse practitioner or physician assistant or any health care provider, then all the same rules above apply. Thomas Westerman Wolf (born November 17, 1948) is an American politician and businessman who has served as the 47th governor of Pennsylvania since January 20, 2015. Your email address will not be published. That's a major, major benefit. I was a low-income earner initially. I mean, I think any woman would say that it's important who you have on the sidelines, helping you and making those balances. Yup. That's going to cost you 20 gold coins. Woman physician millionaire 2: Dr. Jim Dahle: How much is in your rental properties? Woman physician millionaire 4: No, he is a whiz. If you’ve already purchased the report, refer to your email receipt for access. Most important question. There are more than 115,000 Physician Assistants (PA) practicing in America today, making it one of the most in-demand medical professions. Dr. Jim Dahle: And how's your net worth divided it up? I think it's great to get a voice it isn't a physician on here sometimes. Instead, they assist surgeons before, during and after the procedure. No. Did you pay them off very quickly or drag them out for a while? So, I guess there's hope for people. So, I went to some local universities and got my engineering degrees by working my butt off. So, I would say, it all depends right on where you start. None of those things seem to really be the most important things. you are close to 150-200k 1 yr out of school? So, we decided to go ahead and sell the condo. They loved hearing from these successful doctors and what they did to become successful. We didn't want to do that stuff. What advice do you have for those who are a decade or two behind you? The fun thing about medicine is that you can make quite a few mistakes and still be okay in the end, as long as you figure it out eventually. Does he work? Delayed gratification unfortunately is what many of us think of, and certainly we're in that place, but I don't know that it's necessarily beneficial to start living large so early. Now especially with paying off this mortgage, we're going to be at the point where we can really start to just sock away a lot more money, or I might decide to go part-time. Woman physician millionaire 4: A physician assistant or CRNA can pick up and move anywhere and have no income disruption. I drive all my cars into the ground. When he took the male counterpart, my colleague, to dinner, he basically said, “I'm going to groom you to take over the practice. You’re not alone. Sure. And then in cash, we're sitting on about $90,000. The Best Books for Pre-PAs, Practicing PAs and For Your PA School Clinical and Didactic Years “The more that you read, the more things you will know. So, all the pay tables are out. You cannot paste images directly. Thank you for having me. I read the textbook that you recommend by Mike Piper. Yeah. About. Woman physician millionaire 3: It is instead an unusual problem in engineering.”. How did you become so wealthy? Certain men would get most of those shifts or everybody that had a set schedule seemed to be one of the guys. There's a lot of great information on the blog. Women physician millionaire 1: Their family situation varies, from married with kids, to married without kids, to single moms. Now obviously the high-income helped. So, we've talked about what that means and how mommy and daddy have to work more in order to be able to provide that for her. Â Is that what you said to your interviewer for PA school? There are basically six things going up there a week. We kind of buried our head in the sand maybe because we had young kids and didn't spend a ton of money for the first five years. Yeah. Woman millionaire: Be very intentional about your spending. And what were your secrets to success? What advice do you have for those who are a decade or two behind you and want to be where you're at? Woman physician millionaire 2: Woman physician millionaire 5: I found your book, your first book. We just got really lucky that it worked out for us. I think we have seven women physician millionaires. If you have read this far, you will have seen that Dr. B. works A LOT. Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 2: Dr. Jim Dahle: Yeah, sure. I think before I had kids, I was just working and I had a high salary and I never had to pay attention because I had enough money for anything I wanted to do. That's true. Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 2: Once you're doing this....then, as he says "live, and GIVE, like no-one else". That's right. And you have to kind of go out and learn that whole toolbox if you're going to get there. You mentioned that you're an immigrant. So, I feel really fortunate that we are where we are, because we did make quite a few mistakes. So, I don't even think that they have any idea how much money we actually have. My daughter's always like, when I was on a Dave Ramsey kick, she was always like, “Are we listening to the money guy again?” But we do try to talk about the value of money and we talk about saving. Woman physician millionaire 4: At any rate, we better wrap this up. We got into a few more family issues. Dr. Jim Dahle: Topping the list is New York, with New Hampshire and Vermont close behind in second and third. Common consumer refrain. I do think that one of our pitfalls was having a financial advisor and not having one that was good for us or really understanding. We had some really good local universities in the Bay area. Zero. Dr. Jim Dahle: You mentioned you had a few low earnings years and I suspect that might be part of the answer to my next question, which is how did you balance being a mom and becoming a millionaire? It is awesome to have several millionaires all in one episode to learn from. None. I think honestly because I'm a little bit older. There's actually a reason for that. The average Physician Assistant salary is $101,203 as of October 28, 2020, but the salary range typically falls between $89,375 and $116,675.Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education, certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession. Don't outsource anything unless the benefit outweighs the cost/risk. Dr. Jim Dahle: They don't seem to be really big on spending a lot money, it isn't a large part of their life. Dr. Jim Dahle: I took out like loans, got plenty of scholarships. And the rest is in the market. Display as a link instead, × But what's interesting is you've demonstrated that you don't have to be a hobbyist in order to be very successful. Awesome. And so, I hope the listeners who hear these stories are inspired by them and realize that you don't have to be perfect to be successful financially as a doctor. Woman physician millionaire 2: So, if you break the investments downs, that's about a 60/40 splits stock to bonds. For me I don't think that that's something that's impossible to do. And so that really helped me. I mean, I think somebody that came out maybe 5 or 10 years before that may not have said the same thing. Quite a variety with a wide range of yearly incomes, from $54,000-1,000,000 over their careers. Well, my oldest just turned six. Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 3: Dr. Jim Dahle: Jessica: I'd hate to know what you have to do for the number of hours you have to work to make that, and it isn't even enough to match the standard of living in the majority of the rest of the country (election red states as a reference). Dr. Jim Dahle: Know what you're getting into. Not all have invested in real estate or have a side business. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at. Dr. Jim Dahle: That's right. You've done very well. So right now, my W2 from being active duty military is sitting around $125,000 which is very low for my specialty. Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 4: Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 2: Dr. Jim Dahle: Woman physician millionaire 2: © 2020 - The White Coat Investor – Investing & Personal Finance for Doctors, Podcast #180 Show Notes: More Physician Millionaires, This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at, . And then this past year we started a retirement account for him. Have your financial awakening before you leave med school. So, I was spending a lot more than I should have been just because the money was there. This was a post on Sermo, with 437 responses in about a week. So, I would say other than my own personal issues of being a female in my family and not taking on the role of learning finances, it really hasn't impacted my career or my earnings at all. Congratulations. And they're still alive there. So, you don't have to feel like you have to do that. I don't know that one or the other is really related. Also available on Audible! It got me interested in finance. So, I have one home and that home is, I should say that home was paid. It's about $1.3 million in investments. Awesome. Did you get any help from your parents? And as I said, pick three stocks and we'll kind of help you decide, and we won't stop you and we'll let you pick a stock and see the difference in which one it does. But being a mom or a woman doesn't prevent you from being a millionaire. It's about 10%. Woman physician millionaire 5: But if I had been tracking that and really spending more intentionally on what really mattered to me, I think we would have been a lot further along than we are now. Are you looking to retire very early? I thought about that. I grew up with parents that worked all the time and we never had money and they don't see that same kind of situation. Woman physician millionaire 2: Okay. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. It can really put the spotlight or make you think twice before you open your mouth. And I'd read Michelle Singletary’s column in the Washington Post. Women physician millionaire 1: Jessica: I came here when I was a baby. Okay. So, my net worth when I finished was about minus $300,000. And we sit down every year and talk about charities that our family is interested in and the kids are interested in giving to. He explained it to me and I said okay. But welcome to the podcast. Because you can tell by looking at me, it's like, oh, man, I'm underpaid relatively for what I do. Thanks for what you do. And then the home that my mother is in and then we have our rental is completely paid off. Keep your head up, your shoulders back. Average Salary for US Air Force Physician Assistant: The typical salary for a US Air Force Physician Assistant ranges from $89,009-$103,658, with an average salary of $96,334. Dr. Jim Dahle: Dr. Jim Dahle: That compound interest is not a foreign concept at all. Medicine is not easy. But obviously in the long run, hopefully he'll be able to look back and see that lesson. (@BillionairePA) sits down with CEO/World Changer, 19 Keys (@19_Keys) to give you every step you should take in order to execute your dreams into existence. Woman physician millionaire 3: Did they pay for your school or did you get any kind of an inheritance or anything? What's interesting is four years later, my parents got a divorce and he left, but he sold his practice to somebody. There should be no other side of the issue. I came to Texas when the market was very hot and then got to ride that way for several years. But it's just a perception. The way I see it, I can be a typical American consumer and save about 10%, inflate my lifestyle and accommodations every few years, "live for the now" (aka spend for happiness), and retire at the typical age of 60-65 if I'm lucky. Since I got out for the first five years that I was at that group, I was putting in the max, not because I may have done it on my own, but because that was part of being in the group. I'm immigrant. I know that a lot of people are super into like real estate investing or having like a side business like you do and thinking that they're never going to be a millionaire if they're not running a profitable website and podcasts and side business, or if they don't have 5 to 10 rental properties. All right. Woman physician millionaire 2: Straighten out your financial life today! Dr. Jim Dahle: And of course, we have the podcast show notes that are published every Thursday. They paid for my undergraduate. I did make some deliberate career moves to make sure that I was placing myself in organizations that I knew were going to be friendly to women and who had leaders who were going to be supportive and could mentor me in my career path. Dr. Jim Dahle: Now they are 4 years to 16 years out of training with net worths ranging from $1.5 million dollars to $7 million dollars. And then it just depends on the year because we're a hundred percent RVU. So, there were organizations that I avoided and organizations that I deliberately made moves to go into to make sure that I was in a supportive work environment.”. Women physician millionaire 1: When I signed my paperwork for loans for the first year of undergrad and then going forward for med school, my dad walked me through all of it. Being a mom does not preclude acquiring wealth, just like being a dad doesn’t. And how do you balance that? Jessica: I can’t comment on Indian culture, sorry! So, looking back at that, I'm wondering what else I missed out on because I’m a female.”. It’s wrong. And then while I had young children, I only worked part time. So, I would encourage you to take a look at the blog from time to time. Okay. 39 to 40 is when we crossed it. It's not like I was spending frivolously or in a crazy manner. Dr. Jim Dahle: FYI to buy a decent house in California is going to cost you at least a million. Coming out like in 2008, right after the market dropped and being here for the last 12 years is just dumb luck. Dr. Jim Dahle: So, kids came along a little bit later. I'm 26 and I've traded my engineering career to go into medicine to help people. Congratulations on your success. The first time that I was able to track down like that, we started charting our net worth and whatnot we were already millionaires. I mean, right now our savings rates well excess of 50% to 60%. Woman physician millionaire 4: So, we made huge changes. This is the White Coat Investor podcast where we help those who wear the white coat get a fair shake on Wall Street. Woman physician millionaire 5: In those lower earning years in the beginning, I didn't have children yet. Woman physician millionaire 5: But another guest shared an experience she had joining a private practice early in her career. Dr. Jim Dahle: I tried to calculate this out. And then we bought a million-dollar house, which was by far the worst mistake we ever made. Dr. Jim Dahle: How do you balance being a mom and becoming a millionaire? It's getting tiring. That is among the most important things you could ever do for your financial success. Woman physician millionaire 2: Woman physician millionaire 3: That's just always meant that I've stood out. It is just in time education. During the interview I failed to hear if or will the military pensions are valued into the overall worth of the couple. The vast majority of physicians are, after all, motivated to help others with their health problems, with financial security merely a benefit or afterthought. I am above the 75th percentile overall in my specialty (EM) and work 150 hours/month. Okay. Jessica: Of course, the answer to THAT problem is.....MOVE! What kind of school we would want to send our kids to? Women's Forum – By popular demand, a place to discuss issues faced by female high income professionals. I’m guessing based on what you said that your parents didn't help pay for any of your school and you haven't received any sort of significant inheritance. I mean, there's been plenty of times where I felt like, “Oh, maybe I should get into real estate or loans online or X, Y and Z”, but it just never felt right to us. Dr. Jim Dahle: I'd have to say, I really try to think about there's so many things that make you where you are. They want to be where you're at in a decade or two. But I divided it all up. What was your net worth when you came out of training if you remember? What do you want versus what do you need?Â, How much do you want to work to achieve those goals?Â. So, we both worked for good employers that had decent leave policies. I stand to make more than double what my wife and I are use to living on based on JUST my PA earnings alone once I finish school. That's divided up in our personal home, a rental home, and then I guess a second rental home that houses my mother and we helped to fund that house for her. Woman physician millionaire 2: My husband may change careers and he and I both want to get to a place where we don't have to worry about the money piece anymore. Jessica: I have a husband and his income was not what I included in there, but he also kind of fluctuates. That's a good question. However if you currently make what you say, becoming a doctor will probably set you back financially for the rest of your days and you will never catch up. So, we've got $237,000 in Roth IRAs, $278,000 in TSP, $44,000 in a solo 401(k), $168,000 in your brokerage account, $192,000 in private equity real estate. Woman physician millionaire 2: And it's something that was drilled into us from an early age, not to have that. Jessica: And a little bit is in HSA and cash. He took me to dinner and didn't mention any of that. And I had to live in nanny, which was really challenging. And part of the practice agreement was that this person would pay the payments to his children's college fund basically monthly until the equipment was paid off. Is your husband a doc as well? That's just always meant that I've stood out. I tried that for a little bit and it was like, “Okay that's fine, but that doesn't really do it for me. So, we are going for it. So, it’s retirement accounts and taxable investing accounts, invested in mutual funds. The fact that you were a woman physician? That's something that I've seen firsthand. A forum for graduated PAs to discuss topics of interest. I’ll try to avoid asking the wrong questions in future interviews. So, there were organizations that I avoided and organizations that I deliberately made moves to go into to make sure that I was in a supportive work environment. Society for Physician Assistants in Pediatrics (SPAP) One (1) $500 award to a student in their didactic or clinical year. Though even those recommended paying attention to where your money is going and learning about finances and investing. Based on your sarcasm, I’m not getting the sense you want the feedback or seek to take sexism seriously. Taking into account 3% inflation over that time period, it would be worth just $306,000 in today’s dollars.Nov 22, 2016// https://www.visualcapitalist.com/1-million-isnt-worth-used/. And what advice do you have for those who are a decade or two behind you and want to be financially successful and they're just starting their career out? So, I think I had three secrets to success. And recently she expressed desire for a certain toy that really gets her excited. He actually asked us the other day something about bank accounts and we were like, “Where'd you learn about bank accounts?” With him we kind of just described like money is something that we need for the things that we need to buy our house, to pay for our food, our clothes. Okay. When we really started tracking it, I was like, “Oh my God, what are we doing?” Like I said, we buckled down and everything was paid off within like three or four months because we were mindful about it and intentional. “Your salary is less, which seems silly because people would say, ‘Well, how can you make less if everybody makes the same an hour, and it's a shift job?' In my case, I happened to be lucky that I had a partner that had similar spending habits and value systems. Your question itself is sexist and confounds motherhood with being a woman professional. That's something that I think somebody coming out doesn't think about. 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