lingthusiasm episode 1

We thought for a long time for that index finger pointing was the the default universal way to point. And then Charles Bliss was still alive and there’s just no way to tell story – I mean Arika Okrent does tell the story really beautifully, but I just can’t tell in a way where Charles Bliss doesn’t sound like a jerk. Lauren: For more lingthusiasm, and links to all the resources and media mentioned in this episode, go to lingthusiasm-dot-com. It’s not as though the language comes with these particular distinctions itself, it’s a proxy for things you think about particular good people or the simmering ethnic divides in Australia between people who live in Victoria and people who don’t. Gretchen: then a potato cake is kind of more like your thing but it’s not necessarily deep-fried and sometimes there’s fish involved i guess like fish cakes? Gretchen: it has given rise to some interesting stuff! Excerpt from Episode 7 of Lingthusiasm: Kids these days aren’t ruining language. Gretchen: yeah I had a had a piano teacher once who would just at point with everything with his middle finger and I was thinking “I know you’re just pointing to the stuff but I’m really distracted right now”. Lauren: I enjoy whenever anyone’s like 'look we made sentences in emoji’, I love sitting there and like translating them really badly. So there’s various ways to kind of get by these degraded communications. Special Guest: Lauren Gawne. And obviously it’s very important to get your communication right if you’re on a tiny metal box circling the Earth or going somewhere. It’s because they were forced to many cases. Saved searches. [Music] Lauren: Hi Lingthusiasts, Lauren here. So it was constructed to be a sort of neutral language that would supposedly be easy to learn and not reflective of any particular nationality, because it was created to be this independent things which wasn’t like learning a language associated with a particular country. I’m on the record as having called it the “common language equals peace fallacy” and I think it’s the seductive allure of like “wouldn’t be greater if everyone just got along?” Like the kind of Miss Universe wishing for world peace thing. In episode 10 of Lingthusiasm, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch … So she’d have the symbol for a person and the symbol for bed and then the symbol for photo or something and and the children were able to say, like, “I had a dream last night about this thing…” – people who’d never been able to communicate before. So it’s not easy for everyone to learn, it’s easy for a particular group of people to learn. I don’t know that’s the analogy I want, but yeah i’m not a fan of it. So it’s kind of uneconomical from a linguistic perspective to have your neutral word and your masculine word be the same word. Gretchen: yeah, I mean that there’s some iconic stuff about spoken languages as well. Support Lingthusiasm on Patreon to gain access to the teaching linguistics episode and 36 previous bonus episodes, and to chat with fellow lingthusiasts in the Lingthusiasm patron Discord. In the second episode of our Black History Month Special we explore the complicated subject of Black History within the Education System. Each episode of Lingthusiasm has a full transcript and a show notes page with additional links, which you’re welcome to use to supplement your lesson plan. Lingthusiasm is created and produced by Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne and music is by The Triangles. I think maybe because of his political ideals – that was really why people did manage to learn Esperanto. Listen to 47: The Happy Fun Big Adjective Episode and forty-eight more episodes by Lingthusiasm - A Podcast That's Enthusiastic About Linguistics, free! We were also featured on Language Log and Linguist List and got a great endorsement from a listener. In this episode of Lingthusiasm, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne talk about when some languages obligatorily encode time into their grammar. So, the thing that upsets me the most about the one language bringing peace and happiness fallacy is that like we just know it’s wrong from the evidence. Gretchen: so again you can see that’s not very, Romance sounding because it’s not 'et’ or some vowel-y thing and it’s not even Germanic because it’s not 'and’ or 'und’. This has become a Lingthusiasm annual tradition, and we always see a jump in the stats thanks to your recommendations: thank you! So, preview: I’m not a fan of it. Here’s a longer list: Bonus episodes (bonus transcripts are each linked to from each bonus episode’s page): We suggest starting with the free main episodes, which can be found on any podcast app, and then if you’re still looking for more Lingthusiasm, support us on Patreon to get access to the bonus episodes, a Discord community that’s enthusiastic about linguistics, and more. Lauren: And there’s a general kind of nerdy enthusiasm that you can often get like a glimpse of this when linguists do interviews. Gretchen: yeah with an occasional bit of iconic convenience for you to learn signs. Latest was Episode 357: The Mandalorian, Disney+ Leak? But the only reason that the other person knows you’re using that to stand for you is because you’ve developed this convention. My favorite one is someone tried to do this and they said at the end “I was missing grammar”. Listen to Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics on Spotify. Lauren: they were insufficiently peaceful. Lauren: and we also are really – I mean we’re not lazy, we just use the linguistic structures that we have. Lauren: it’s like those times that people are like “this thing got translated into emoji” and you’re like “great, translate it back out of emoji why don’t you?”. 1: Our Favourite Things 8 June 2020 Black Lives Matter For our first episode as Because Language, we’re assisted by an all-star cast of our linguistic friends, all here to tell us what they love about language. It’s just that I think a pluralistic way of 'wouldn’t be great everyone spoke multiple languages’ is maybe more likely to get us there. Lauren: Another language with someone tried to capture this idea of universal communication but from a completely different perspective was Blissymbols or Blissymbolics – which were invented by a guy his name was Charles Bliss. Gretchen: right, but in other languages you can have like 'bus, I am on it’ or something like that. November is our anniversary episode of Lingthusiasm! So in Spanish you have a word like 'niño’ which can mean 'boy’ or 'child’ whereas 'niña’ means 'girl’ – but 'niños’ can mean either 'boys’ or 'children’ so you have to do like extra stuff you want to talk about a group of boys specifically. Lauren: well i think it was part of this bigger personal brand that he had as this cheerful guy who was going to solve the world’s communications problems through a language –  that was all about visual iconic imagery. I tried learning it when I was like 12 because I encountered this book about it on a bookshelf. Enregistrer mon nom, mon e-mail et mon site web dans le navigateur pour mon prochain commentaire. We chose our tagline because we’re here to explore interesting things that language has to offer and especially what looking at language from a linguistics perspective can tell us about how language works. And it really took off in the organization where she was working in Canada. And secondly is the promise that we associate with it – what it would even mean for everyone to speak the language even if that is feasible? Gretchen: so neither of them is your thing. If you've run out of Lingthusiasm episodes to listen to or want to chat with people about your budding linguistics fandom, your problem is now solved! I’m Gretchen … Lauren: so a lot of people now are like 'well you know we’re basically there with English so let’s just make English the universal language’. Leave linguists chatting for a while and you’ll eventually have them plotting the … Lauren teaches linguistics in Australia and co-hosts the Lingthusiasm podcast with Gretchen McCulloch. For more teaching resources, see also the #intro linguistics and #high school tags on the blog of one of our hosts. There’s a certain genre of linguist conversation that we think non-linguists don’t get to listen in on enough, where we just are very excited about all the things that happened in linguistics. Cranberry Chutney (2013 w/ Dave Dameshek)4. The pilot said something non-standard that they were taking off and the person in the control tower assumed that they were going through the standard motions and requesting permission to take off – and instead of giving the correct reply just said 'ok’ which the pilot took as 'okay you can take off now because that’s what you just said you would do’. ‎A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics by Gretchen McCulloch (All Things Linguistic) and Lauren Gawne (Superlinguo). That meant that Gretchen and I really considered everything we included in the course from first principles, including what terminology made … Special times call for special episodes. So you have something now called 'Aviation English’ which is an attempt to make sure that people who work in the International Civil Aviation Organization all speak a degree of a particular kind of English that has very set terminology and very set word order and features like that, so that there aren’t any miscommunications. Just tone down the optimism of world peace because it would be really great as like a commercial thing if we could have international trade through this unified language". A weird and deep conversation about language delivered right to your ears the third Thursday of every month. This month’s Lingthusiasm episode was about how Kids These Days aren’t ruining language, plus a highly-requested bonus episode on our Patreon about how to teach yourself even more linguistics, with our recs for linguistics books, videos, and other resources. Picks of the week: Dan's Shampoo (Dan Miller) Brickell Mens Products (Shaun Jennings) dontpanic.io T… Stay Lingthusiastic! Listen online, no signup necessary. In this episode of Lingthusiasm, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about why the schwa is cool enough to get its own name! Gretchen: both of them are the the right thing. I think it’s because that’s not what emoji are designed to communicate. lingthusiasm: Lingthusiasm Episode 47: The happy fun big adjective episode Adjectives: they’re big, they’re fun, they’re…maybe non-existent? 00:23:17; If you’d like to talk about your experiences with linguistic prejudice, join in the chat @accentricitypod on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. It’s a hard question to learn all about the relative difficulty of language learning at all ages, and how to use your favourite activities to help. [Music] Gretchen: Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that’s enthusiastic about linguistics! Gretchen: One thing that often comes up when we’re talking about languages and linguistics is, “Wouldn’t it be great if everyone just spoke one language?” And there’s two things that come with that: there’s the idea that could be feasible to make everybody speak one language and if so what should that language be? I should happily say that I agree and I’m perhaps more realistic about the realities of humanity when it comes to an idealistic concept like this. And this is a pretty basic concept that we just have a massive difficulty communicating with emoji. the third Thursday of the month. Another one that I find is very cool which is less about “let’s just do everything in English”, but it’s still got this high-stakes aspect is on the ISS. You know, there are civil wars, there have there been many of them in history. Gretchen: so the word for men is like 'homo’ or something like Homo sapiens. The language of space are English and Russian? Like, if that is the level of difference that we’re trying to pick a fight about. Gretchen: like it’s not every language, it’s just a lot of them. Lauren is co-host of the linguistics podcast Lingthusiasm. A podcast that’s enthusiastic about linguistics. You don’t want to have a miscommunication there because you could end up floating in space in the wrong way. Esperanto is a widely spoken universal language. Lauren: so Australia English as far as like, you know – you look at America and there’s quite a lot of linguistic diversity for one country. Why emoji pose no threat to the English language, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. Annuler la réponse. Gretchen: so it’s a terrible language for a bunch of reasons and the the main reason that I stopped when I was 12, which I think was a great decision on my part, was that it was sexist. Adam takes Natalia to Thanksgiving Party (2012 w/ Greg Fitzsimmons)2. Lauren: or sometimes you find that people do – you find temporary emergent communicative norms that will arise in these contexts where people are trying to use things. Lauren: I talked about Australia being a place where people can get really riled up about the different and potato cake and a potato scallop, and you can think of Australia as being really culturally homogeneous because of that. Like, you don’t necessarily have memorized the international aviation one but you just pick a common names so you say like 'n’ as in 'Nancy’ or ’m’ as in 'Michael’ because N & M sound very similar over the phone. On the International Space Station, you have astronauts from the US and from other English speaking countries and you have cosmonauts from Russia. I just learned that this podcast exists, and it makes me happy.One thing, though. To celebrate, we’re asking you to introduce the show to people who would be totally into a linguistics podcast, if only they knew it existed! Lauren: yeah and we can all speak a Russian English pidgin and then we can colonize Mars and turn into a proper Space Creole. Like the word for 'nose’ tends to have an 'n’ it because the 'n’ sound is a nasal sound – it’s produced by putting air out of your nose. I get this when it comes to emoji a lot, because I do a lot of emoji interviews and some people say “oh yeah emoji they’re this universal language that you can understand immediately” – and I think it’s a similar problem that there’s a lot in emoji that is culturally specific, or that is not universally understandable, and there’s also a lot of meanings you can’t convey an emoji because they aren’t very easily picture-able. Gretchen: at a larger scale, I think people see things like these trade languages or aviation English or like international symbols for the Olympics where you can see the symbol and see o”kay which sporting event does this refer to”? 1 hr 8 min; APR 17, 2020; Episode 47: ATA meets Troublesome Terps - Live online meetup Episode 47: ATA meets Troublesome Terps - Live online meetup. Cooper, The Donut King, Embattled. Lauren: in Nepal where I spend a lot of time that is a lot of free variation between index finger and middle finger pointing, and my Westerner sensibilities still giggle at that. So much for a language of peace. Lauren: I also Tweet and blog as Superlinguo. I’m sorry I just said 'yep’ and then I didn’t really think about the fact that that’s a fact is it? I also think that we protect our hopes for humanity on it. New episodes (free!) In Episode 13 of Lingthusiasm, your host Gretchen McCulloch interviews Dr. Nicole Holliday, an Associate Professor of linguistics at Pomona Collegem about her work on the speech of American black/biracial young men, prosody and intonation, and what it means to sound black. Lauren: English as a lingua franca these days, we have to remember, it’s because of fairly gratuitous and heinous colonial expansion by the British. It’s not 'hot hundo’ or whatever it is – 'hotdogo’ is my one piece of Esperanto. Gretchen: I kind of think of Esperanto and people who learn Esperanto is kind of like couch surfers – you know, people who joined like the couch surfing web site and they meet people from around the world and they like sleep on each other’s couches and they really do like having experiences that are like connected to the local community – and I think that’s very nice, it’s just a pity that they’re doing it with such a terrible language. Encouraging her when … And so one of the things they say, is “you need to know stuff about math and engineering and, like, aerodynamics and you also fly planes in the military and stuff”. He was Jewish and was interned in the Nazi camps. (via lingthusiasm) One of the best things about doing this podcast is that I get to learn really cool things - like the fact that space is not monolingual. A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics by Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne. Remove; In this conversation Gretchen: yeah, you translate something into emoji and then when you translate it back it completely loses its meaning, or you have to already understand what the source text was. And so one of the things that they do on the ISS – so first of all every astronaut and cosmonaut needs to be bilingual in English and Russian because those are the languages of space. There’s nothing ethnic, there’s nothing particularly linguistic, it’s purely that the Victorians and the New South Welsh will find any reason to disagree and we don’t always have that many so we were reduced to bickering over fried food. The contributors: Most of the people who appear on this … Lauren: but is that just people like me who go “hotdogs! And Esperanto is interesting because it’s a conlang. Get an email when a new episode of Lingthusiasm comes out: To support Lingthusiasm, and listen to bonus episodes, visit, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. Otherwise it could be a person who looks kinda like this who is not necessarily me who does this action. I guess my personal story with Esperanto is I tried learning it when I was like 12. It’s kind of impressive how homogeneous Australian English is, and how disproportionately outraged people get about variation. And then it started spreading, after sitting on a shelf for decades unused you finally have someone using them to communicate with people who couldn’t communicate before, it was really powerful. It's one of the … Listen to the full episode, read the transcript, or check out the show notes for links to further reading. Gretchen: I mean it’s useful because 'b’ and 'c’ and ’d’ and 'e’ and stuff they sound very similar, they all rhyme. Gretchen: he was a big idealist. Dark Season 2 Episode 1: Beginnings and Endings Recap. Gretchen: it has a Romance kind of look because it tends to have this kind of consonant vowel sequences like Romance languages do. Gretchen: yeah, like people get married and then they get divorced it’s not because they don’t speak the same language, it’s because they have irreconcilable differences. Lauren: Send your complaints to us in the form of emoji. One war that kind of flames up every few years is something known as the 'potato cake / potatoes scallop’ war. So she set out the Blissymbols and used them as a way to teach these children to communicate. Episode 5 of Lingthusiasm went up! Lauren: the only Esperanto word I know is the word 'hotdogo’ which is the Esperanto word for hotdog. Or, we know that some people in some cultures because of various taboos or because of style preferences will point with their eyes or their eyebrows, and there’s a whole collection of different handshapes you can use to point in indigenous communities in Central Australia. It borrows a lot of words from various European languages and so it’s a lot easier to learn for people who already speak a European language than for people who speak a language that’s not European. Why do foreign astronauts have to be able to speak Russian? Lauren: This is definitely not a debate style set up today either. I also did a short survey about what the winky face emojicon and/or emoji means to you (see also the twitter thread about it for … Gretchen: Like, so much for helping children. So that’s something that ties it to emoji and Blissymbols in a way, because there’s some relationship between the gesture or the emoji and the thing it’s representing or referring to. Make your boring commute or chores feel like … Gretchen: yeah the other thing I think is, because, I mean it’s not like Blissymbols had caught on elsewhere (Lauren: nope), and I think that kind of speaks to this hope. There was an interesting recent study trying to look at statistically what are some iconic things that show up in spoken languages? In this episode of Lingthusiasm, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about the relationship of the translator and the text. Gretchen: but the Esperanto word that I remember the best is 'kai’ K-A-I, which is the word for 'and’. 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