Thank you for engaging. See how the interglacial warming is flat lined by this response when the oceans achieve an established tropical status capable of moving that heat back to space big time, while the oceans are still rising and the warming effect continues into the interglacial plateaux which still stays within a couple of degrees up and down every 1Ka. On the positive side, look at the leadership that many tech companies have provided. He also believes the world will be “pleasantly surprised” by sooner-than-expected, safe vaccines, and that the public will somehow overcome the misinformation atrocities on that thing called the internet. The numerical methods are approximating a discontinuous solution so That’s bias, not uncertainty, and until the modeling community finds a way to fix it, the economics and policy making communities are justified in assuming future warming projections are overstated, potentially by a great deal depending on the model. @ dpy6629 – you don’t necessarily expect it if you cherry pick things. Great work ! You can access the paper here. Fighting climate change: Cheaper than 'business as usual' and better for the economy; 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #48; 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #47; Media reaction: Boris Johnson’s ‘10-point’ net-zero plan for climate change; Skeptical Science New Research for Week #47, 2020 It is based on the correct well posed partial differential system of equations that has no continuum errors, 2. Action to tackle climate emissions announced by countries in recent months could help limit global warming to 2.1C, analysis suggests.A new assessment by … The tropical ocean is heat engine of the planet. They prove no “science”. Climate action pledges could curb global warming to 2.1C - analysis Updated / Tuesday, 1 Dec 2020 16:40 127 countries which are responsible for around 63% … Your source attribution (Ghil, 2013) is a bit cryptic. That kind of weather happens even during a long-term warming trend for the planet. The oceans’ great continent-wrapping currents, each one moving as … Question – does anyone else have any recollection of the original version instead of the revised version of Hansens model ? Would one of those options be a more intelligent conclusion? Even Generation’s annual sustainability report shows that public attention toward climate change has taken a backseat to concerns about the novel coronavirus. The sticker should read: “WARNING! And there is the highest range of water vapor in the atmosphere 50,000 parts per million. This is a question borne of ignorance, but how do we know the issue isn’t that models are getting it wrong but that there’s something wrong with the radiosonde data? The authors suggest the problem is models are not handling ozone depletion effects correctly. The red squares are in the high ECS group and the blue circles are in the low ECS group. It is this error that leads you to calculate an expected surface temperature that is much too low. aerosols and solar forcing). I recommend conclusion #4 of the slide deck Why didn’t you publish my results on the news, especially as you reviewed my manuscript. Jim, If you’re following someone that is arguing volcanoes disprove something about CO2 levels, stop that. So I start with a tidally locked planet that has a pure nitrogen atmosphere and build from there. Now weaknesses and preparedness and the capacity to respond to this crisis have relevance beyond health care, because it is triggering a new awareness of the need for change and improvements in social safety nets in the role of essential workers. The last sentence may explain IChemE’s fervent catastrophism. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. pointed to the exaggerated warming in the tropical troposphere as a “potentially serious inconsistency.” But rather than fixing it since then, modelers have made it worse. In this Figure the box/whiskers are model-predicted warming trends in the tropics (20S to 20N) (horizontal axis) versus altitude (vertical axis). they violate the numerical analysis requirement that the truncation error be small. On the nighttime side of the model a bias in favour of radiation loss to space causes the model to cool. overview of state of the ocean heat knowledge (“Measuring Global Ocean Heat Content to Estimate the Earth Energy Imbalance” In reality Earth is a smooth surface planet and absorbs and reflects as a smooth sphere. Report will be saved in my cloud files and probably printed. It is a negative feedback. Also we should have under consideration the physical phenomenon of the sea waters freezing-melting behavior. In the case of climate change or global warming there will always be another viewpoint put forward. drhealy The first coat blocks most of the light. Al1816 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53945950 We only invest in businesses that we believe produce goods and services that are consistent with the emergence of a clean, prosperous, healthy, fair world. From the Senate to the vice presidency, while most politicians were yelling about oil prices, Gore was talking about connecting information superhighways to public schools and taxing British Thermal Units to fight global warming. Thus the sea ice’s higher reflecting ability doesn’t cool significantly the Earth’s surface. We can excuse the decade of the 70s. But all this talk of global warming is not overblown. He’s chair of Generation Investment Management, a $20 billion equity firm focusing on environmentally sustainable companies. It might seem like a tough time to put on that specific happy face—a pandemic and resurgent fights over racial and economic inequality might take cuts in the queue ahead of a global economic meltdown and planetary ecosystem collapse. “Water vapour in the atmosphere ranges from 8 to 50,000 parts per million .In the tropics it will be in the higher range so the marginal warming effect of a rise in CO2 from 280 to 400 parts will be much less in the tropics. “You start right before a major El Nino event and then end right before another major El Nino event.”. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activities So global average surface air temperature is 11.4 C. What about the effects? Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement (updated 1/1/20) and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement (updated 1/1/20) and Your California Privacy Rights. We read this a lot: the forecast temperature trend was too high because the forecast (or “chosen”) CO2 trend was too high, but the model was ok (no a priori criteria of “ok” ever written.) The SW low cloud feedback is larger on average in CMIP6 due to larger reductions in low cloud cover and weaker increases in cloud liquid water path with warming. It shows the average 24 h insolation intensity and it is correct. As of 2011, the technology produced less than one tenth of one percent of global energy demand. And it is not much of a leap to realize that the dire advice from a climate scientist must be taken into account as well. Positive feedbacks accelerate the process, while negative feedbacks slow it down. It requires policy changes. We used 1979-2014 (as did Mitchell et al. ) Incompetence? Sounds like the more complaining about Global warming the more research dollars are handed out. Look at the demands from employees, at some other tech companies that haven't yet changed enough, where their employees are demanding that they change. People are coming their senses. https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=8KDiiDUAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate We've got to do a better job of stopping global warming, a new report says. That’s why we do not base policies on them. The theme of the conference is “Alarming Signs of Global Warming!! So global warming could turn, say, ... starting in 2020, to revise their plans for cutting CO2 emissions. I really think realists miss a trick not pointing out that the oceans have the climate’s back as regards a bit of GHE change within the overall system, and have done since there were oceans. If the real answers are, you have to rip up the way health care gets handled in the United States and the way fossil fuel gets subsidized, then how do you get there with an investment fund? Topics global warming COVID-19 environment business climate change WIRED is where tomorrow is realized. Please take some time to explore the utility of the model in the Excel Spreadsheet Noonworld Tables 31May19 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334491101_Noonworld_Tables_31May19. Quite the opposite. Would it be when the sun never sets, daylight all day? We need to stop subsidizing fossil fuels. How do you propose to keep climate change in the center of attention? Governments have to play a role, investors have to play a role, and businesses have to play a role, all to ensure that the short-term emergency and recovery measures lead to a better and more resilient future. … (Mitchell et al. New research like the PNAS study that shows the regional fingerprint of global warming on extreme rainfall can help reduce the risk, she said, because it enables better short-term forecasts. aljo1816 OK OK, So we need more money to make more models to get it right! One would expect the model “wiskers” to at least overlap the observations and they don’t. The warming winter … As vice president, he looked for big policy answers to hard global problems. No model with that reverse logic will ever work. I think that the general lesson is that when scientists are setting their hair on fire, so to speak, to try to warn us of something, it's best to pay attention. Learn about the impact and consequences of climate change and global warming for the environment and our lives. It happens because ice and snow have higher albedo. I'm sure that's something that a lot of investors are going through right now, since the world has dramatically changed in a short amount of time. But that denies the inevitability of the change of chaos. In order to calculate atmospheric warming one has to use Φ = 0,47. AG: Yes, I believe that is the case. Center for Environmental Research and Earth Science. As I read the blog post, three possibilities jump out: 1. Photograph: Matt Writtle/Evening Standard/Redux, Two-thirds of Americans now support the Black Lives Matter movement, ♀️ Want the best tools to get healthy? Or use pejorative language toward people who point out that they are too unreliable for policy.. Many of these developing coronavirus vaccines are using new technologies. The new theory says that climate change occurs as discrete jumps in the system. Thus the amount of energy involved in calculations is reduced to 0,47 of the old assumption’s amount. At the tropics we have the highest level of the surface IR emission capacity. More CO2 (and water vapour in the atmosphere causing SST rise) brings cooling evaporation and clouds to reflect the primary heat source. I guess I wonder if climate change is destined to always take a backseat even as all of these events are intertwined. Keep in mind that humans could, if they wanted to, cause the tropical ocean to have average temperature of 4 C. > If it isn’t going to warm a lot, arguments for change become less convincing. Disconnect in the relationship between GMST and ECS, T cell cross-reactivity and the Herd immunity threshold, What the pandemic has taught us about science, Herd immunity to COVID-19 and pre-existing immune responses, “we find considerable warming biases in the CMIP6 modeled trends, and we show that these biases are linked to biases in surface temperature (these models simulate an unrealistically large global warming).”, “we note here for the record that from 1998 to 2014, the CMIP5 models warm, on average 4 to 5 times faster than the observations, and in one model the warming is 10 times larger than the observations.”, “Throughout the depth of the troposphere, not a single model realization overlaps all the observational estimates. prediction of .8c of warming which almost precisely matched the actual. On the other hand there is a physical phenomenon which has a strong influence in the cooling of Earth’s surface. The average global ocean surface temperature is about 17 C. The Arctic sea ice has a warming and not a cooling effect on the Global Energy Balance. Solutions of an energy-balance model (EBM), showing the global-mean temperature (T) vs. the fractional change of insolation (μ) at the top of the atmosphere. We had a botched reopening, and the predictable consequences are unfolding now. However I recall seeing Hansen’s original A/B/c model predictions and at the 30 year point, the B model was showing 1.0c to 1.2c of warming over the same 30 year period. I researched every study I could find without paying, and reviewed ten of the most recent studies. Gerald, Numeric curve fitting models are useful cause and effect study tools. That even if some of these investments and the companies themselves are maybe weakened in the short-term because of the pandemic, you're willing to make that investment toward sustainability for that timeline in the future when we actually are post-Covid-19. Forcing models to use prescribed sea surface temperatures (blue), which in effect hands the “right” answer to the model for most of the surface area, mitigates the problem in the troposphere but not the stratosphere. 40% tropics 40 times 26 is 1,040 and 4 C, 40 times 4 = 160 This post should be titled “The Replication of Consequential Scientific Futility”. And in order to do that the atmospheric mass must be increased. John and I look at the tropical and global lower- and mid- troposphere. Global warming, the phenomenon of rising average air temperatures near Earth’s surface over the past 100 to 200 years. The basic error in these models is the assumption that water provides a POSITIVE feedback to the GHE. It turns out that the trend lines Gore has spent a lifetime either warning people about (carbon!) I don't want to sound Pollyannaish on this point, but if you think back a few years, the awakening to the incredible injustice that was suffered for so long by the LGBTQ community led to a startling change in the demand for marriage equality and for an end to discrimination in employment, recently codified in a Supreme Court decision. I get it that modeling the climate is incredibly difficult, and no one faults the scientific community for finding it a tough problem to solve. Since you’re here, I wonder what you make of the conclusions of this recent learned journal article? to see how what data there is is used to keep forecast models from going off the rails because they are using the wrong atmospheric dynamical system and inaccurate parameterizations. Uniformed ‘me-too’ climate statements do not bring us closer to thermodynamic reality.”. Dave Winterflood. I should write instead: “And the Arctic region insolation absorption is very poor even in the summer. Alarmists use a gas that is a little more than 400 parts per million, that is 1 in 2,500. I wanted to get the basics out there. Major new climate study rules out less severe global warming scenarios. Many conditions affect weather. The papers are Mitchell et al. Global warming refers to an unequivocal and continuing rise in the average temperature of Earth's climate system. Are you looking five to seven years from now? It may well be the best data there is, but that does not mean it is perfect, does it? That's kind of been driven by the laws of physics. The percentage of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere is measured in ppm (parts per million). I’d like to know why the insolation is highest at the poles at such obliquity, a minimum of 44 degrees at the polar region boundaries? AG: No, I'm probably not going to do that, but it's a very thoughtful question. What controls global climate is the tropical ocean. Mitchell et al. Why not 90% lost to radiation and 10% returned convectively? That seems to me like the important question – and that a lot of people spend (waste) a lot of time an energy focused on the wrong question (because they’re ideologically motivated and/or stick in a binary mindset). And the business community is seeing that the opportunity for more sustainable profits and more job creation, by going in a green recovery direction, is the way we should go. Global warming found to give rise to earlier springs contributing to drier summers Jan 06, 2020 Greening at high latitudes may inhibit the expansion of midlatitude deserts LT=lower troposphere, MT=mid-troposphere. Obviously one crashes the amount water vapor on planet Earth. The Earth’s oceans aren’t sat in a lab. Change your minds and join our cause or cough spit you’re dead.”. I don’t care. RCP8.5). I have been sternly informed by communications experts that “global warming” is a better term for what’s happening than “climate change.” I have also been told the opposite. Just recently, look at the pressure that Facebook is under to change its atrocious practices. The purpose of the analysis is to establish the minimum irreducible criteria for a climate model. Humans could do this, because the energy cost of mixing warm tropical water with cold deep tropical warms, is not a lot. Global warming refers to the steady temperature rise on our planet. My guess is that the maturation and strength of the global biotech community has advanced so much that there's a real chance there—that we will be pleasantly surprised with the arrival of efficacious and safe vaccines sooner than the experts have told us to expect. 3. This process appears to be a negative feedback. I’m looking for some evidence that 2. or 3. must be wrong. An illustration shows the Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich … “but that there’s something wrong with the radiosonde data?” We believe that we're in the early stages of a sustainability revolution, one that will be larger than the Industrial Revolution with the speed of the digital revolution. We examined the first 38 models in the CMIP6 ensemble. First of all, there is now voluminous research showing that businesses that fully integrate ESG factors into their business plans are more profitable in almost every sector of the global economy. IChemE accepts the veracity of the science and its conclusions published by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). That’s practically as good as making an accurate temperature forecast. Mitchell et al also did this and report no change in results. [August 2019] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmars.2019.00432/full, The reason we need long time spans is that internal climate variability dominates in short time spans. by Ross McKitrick Two new peer-reviewed papers from independent teams confirm that climate models overstate atmospheric warming and the problem has gotten worse over time, not better. Everyone knows this too. I’m merely a Member of the IET, and my humble opinion is that David’s article is indeed “risible”. of clouds. The red lines are climate model outputs after feeding in observed GHG and other forcings over this interval. ... 2020 greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S. are predicted to drop to lowest level in three decades : //www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activities if you must, which Buddhists and which sayings thus ECS will be destroyed by chaos purpose the... 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